Online Bookselling: The Next Few Steps

book price Online Bookselling: The Next Few StepsTo continue with my series posts to help newcomers to the online book-selling world, I’m going to discuss the next steps that a newcomer needs to understand and grasp before you will ever notice any kind of success with this business.  In these series of posts I will be concentrating on the basics.  These posts may be old hat to people that have been selling online for years but they are excellent for newbies navigate the sometimes perilous waters of the online book-selling world.

As always, if you have a comment on this or any post please feel free to input it at the bottom of the post.  I don’t want this blog to just be me rambling on every week but a community where everyone can learn from others so even if these concepts are too basic for you write a quick tip that I may have forgotten that may help others out as well.

1. Begin thinking of a business model.

This is a step that I haven’t read anywhere regarding online bookselling.  It seems to me that most if not all people talking about online book-selling seem to assume that you will be going to book sales, used bookstores, flea markets, etc and buying books the old fashioned way.  Find a few books, pay a buck or two for them, take them home and list them on Amazon.  Throw in some book scouting gadgetry in the mix to help you make more informed decisions and you’re well on your way to making money selling books on the Internet.  This is what I read over and over when I first started but soon (only after a few months) of selling books that I chose NOT to do that at all!

If you’re brand new to selling books online you probably think I’m crazy in thinking that I don’t actually go to these sales, stores, etc and buy books, right?  “If Adam doesn’t buy books, then how is he supposed to sell them?”  I’ll answer your question this way.  I DO buy books for resale obviously but I don’t buy them in a conventional manner.  I’ll admit that there are those times where I will go to an occasional book sale and see what I can find but it’s not the lion’s share of my inventory.  I buy books in bulk.  You can see a quick video that I shot at my warehouse titled “What’s 20,000 books look like?” to see exactly what I mean.  I’ve chosen to buy leftover books from book sales, buying out used bookstores and other sources of large quantities of inventory.  Keep in mind that I didn’t start this way because I sold individual books for a few months until I decided to jump all in with this endeavor and really try to make something of it.

Examples of inventory acquisition business models include:

  • Attending book sales and buying individual books (typically low quantity, high quality books)
  • Buying remainders from online sites to get literally new books (high quality but high price)
  • Buying leftovers from book sales (mostly low quality, high quantity, dirt cheap price)

All have their advantages and disadvantages so it’s best to at least begin doing your research on what you think how you’d like to get your inventory.

2. Find possible local sources of inventory.

This is a topic that seems to be beat to death because this is probably the biggest question that newcomers ask.  Take a stroll over to the Amazon seller forums and you’ll find dozens of threads relating to where to find inventory.  The old-timers that have been around a long time hate it when newcomers ask that question. icon smile Online Bookselling: The Next Few Steps   There are hundreds of different creative ways to find inventory but as to not overwhelm a newcomer, I always recommend starting local.  This means used bookstores, your local Friends of the Library book sales or bookstores if they have one, thrift stores such as Goodwill or Salvation Army, yard sales, flea markets, consignment shops, etc.  Just about any place that may sell used goods is a good place for looking.  Bring up Google maps and do a search around your area for thrift stores, consignment shops, etc.  Be creative with your searches because there just might be that hidden shop with tons of great books for cheap that no one knows about.

Another great way to find sources of inventory around you is to get on your local city’s craigslist page.  Take a look at the books section and while you’re there browse through the yard sales and free section as well.  You wouldn’t believe some of the stuff that people GIVE away sometimes.  If you don’t want to visit the page all the time, I recommend subscribing to your city’s RSS feed that way everything that gets posted automatically comes to you.  It’s a little technical for the non-techie but here’s a nice video on the basics of RSS.

I offer an entire chapter in my eBook Used Books: Big Business to this topic alone which would prove invaluable to the newcomer.  I was also introduced to the program Creative Sourcing for Booksellers that also addresses this topic and offers a lot of unconventional ways to get books that you’ll be kicking yourself that you hadn’t thought of them before.  It’s a short read (or listen) because it’s so highly targeted at just inventory sourcing but it has some good ideas in there that I had never thought about.

3. Begin playing with the prices your charging.

You can make a pricing scheme as complicated as you want and I’ve been there.

“I got this book for nothing so I could sell it quick because I could undercut everybody!”

“I think I could get some more money for this book because my feedback is pretty good.”

“There’s no one else on the Internet that’s selling this book, I’ll charge a MILLION (my best Austion Powers impression) dollars!”

It’s tough to really decide how much you’re going to charge for the books you list and I still struggle with this all the time.  There’s never a static sweet spot to where you get the most money yet still sell.  However, there are some guidelines that you can follow while you begin manipulating your prices.

  • List books around the cheapest price (+/- the lowest 10%)
  • Be aware of other sellers’ repricers
  • Match condition

For example, let’s say you have a book you got for a dollar in like new condition and it’s going anywhere from $20 to $50 on Amazon and there are 20 different other sellers competing against you that all offer the same book in different conditions with the lowest price for a like new book for $30.  You have some choices to make here depending on your goal with this book.  Do you just want to sell it and make some quick cash?  Match the lowest possible price which is $20 and watch it sell in an hour (depending on sales rank).  Are you not in a hurry and want to get quite a bit more?  Since you’re a new seller you really don’t have this option due to your lack of feedback (high positive feedback numbers give you this luxury).  Or do you want to put it “in the ballpark”?  My suggestion would be to put it at $30.01 to get as close as you can get to the lowest other like new copy and also get a decent spot on the listings on the page.

Some sellers use repricers to automatically price their books on a regular schedule.  It’s too time consuming for someone with thousands of books listed to individually go through and price all of them on a consistent basis.  These repricers have rules in them that sellers set that reprice all of their inventory depending on other competing offers.

Again, here’s another example from the scenario above.  You want to really get rid of this book so you decide to list your book for $20 and think that it’s going to sell in no time.  That is until 12 different other sellers’ repricers come along, detect that a competing price (yours) is way lower and set their price for a penny under yours thus undercutting YOU like you did them.  Other repricers follow suit and soon you find your book is the HIGHEST!  What happened?  What happened is that these other sellers had rules setup so that they always undercut a competing offer.  They saw each other’s listings and noticed that you undercut all of them.  They also want the sale so they all followed suit undercutting you and each other and soon the price is a  few bucks!  What a drag!

As a beginner, don’t worry about repricers but just be aware that there are programs out there that can automatically see when you make a change and then undercut you in a literal few minutes.  Never undercut a price that you’re wanting to be around.  Always price a few cents more at the least.

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  • Rezolutionz

    Please let us know more specifically where you are buying your books in bulk.

    Just to show the other side of the table…

    I buy every single book 1 @ a time using “Handheld Scanner gadgetry” for anywhere form $5/bag to .50 cents/$1 each. I can bring in anywhere from $300-$2000 in inventory a day using these methods.

    I'd say an average amount is about $500/day
    I spend anywhere from $10-$50/day and up to 3 hrs on inventory acquisition, although we run a 2 person business, so its the equivalent of 6hrs. The rest of the day is spent listing books,repricing them, and every other day (MON.,WED.,FRI.) pulling order, and wrapping packages

    I don't necessarily agree with Adam's viewpoint on buying in bulk. My inventory is pretty steady @ about 3,500 books and I do approximately 1,000 orders / month. My average sale price is $8-$12.

  • adbertram

    Thanks for the comment! Every bookseller does things different and we
    both have different circumstances as well because you do it full time
    and I'm just a part timer.

  • bearvalley

    So Adam since you buy in bulk I'm assuming that you end up with a large amount of penny books. So what do you do with them? I'm assuming that you can only give so many of them away for tax donation purposes. What happens to everything else?

  • adbertram

    Any penny books with a sales rank under 500,000 go to FBA and the rest
    get sold in bulk to other brick and mortar booksellers for about a
    dime a piece.

  • Rezolutionz

    When I was running FBA I was only shipping off books with ranks of 100K or less, and then once I noticed there was becoming a lot of stale books at the warehouse, that had ranks that had gone up instead of down and now were in the high hundreds of thousands, I began only sending books w/ ranks of under 50K to ensure I wasnt paying storage for dead weight..

    What would you buy penny books for? Say if you purchased them locally? It would have to be by rank correct?

    If I had 1,000 penny books all under 1 LB weight in Very Good -Like New condition w/ a rank of 100K or less, what would you be willing to pay for them? What would the least net profit be from the sales of those books if all of them sold using FBA?

    I think this is stuff people really want to know.

  • adbertram

    If the market price for a used book on Amazon is 1 cent and I sell it
    with FBA with the 3.99 tacked on to keep me at the top of the list and
    the book weighs a pound or less I can make around $1.30 or so. If I
    would set out to buy these books I would pay more than a dime for
    them. Even that may be a little high.

    Rank is important but it's not everything. Seasonal books, trends, etc
    all play a role in book demand also. I send everything with a rank of
    500,000 or below. Sure, there are some that are going to accumulate
    storage fees but I feel the few cents it tacks on every month will pay
    off in the end when it does sell. I have absolutely no data to back
    that up but I hope to have some in the next few months.

    I also consider this a big advantage for me also because this still is
    a part time business for me. Instead of hiring an employee to do
    things for me, I consider Amazon my employee to do order fulfillment
    and customer service.

  • Rezolutionz

    Have you investigated what is entailed if you want to remove your item from the FBA marketplace, so as to no longer incur storage fees? It costs money.

    I dont remember exactly how much it was, but it's enough to make we want to control the ranking strongly. At one point I would gather books for a shipment, wait a week and then re-scan them to make sure the rank didnt go up, and if it did, remove it from the pile.

    Definitely good money if you can get em cheap enough.

    In order to make gross $3k/month you'd have to make approx 2300 FBA sales. Finding em for cheap is the key.

    Prime Customers buy, what? Something like 30% more than non-prime customers? Makes Sense.

    I would like to see a blog post contrasting FBA sales VS Non FBA sales of same items. How much would you lose if you mailed, say ALL of your inventory to Amazon to handle, maybe if you lived in a small dorm room or soemthing else and had no space for storage and limited amount of time to deal with them.

    Or like people I have heard of that fly around the US going to huge sales and mailing the books back to themselves or Amazon.com warehouse…

  • adbertram

    Yes, I have seen the prices it takes to remove the book from inventory.
    Frankly, with penny books I'd probably just have them destroy it.

    I don't have all penny books at FBA. It is every book that I come across
    that is under a rank of 500,000. I've sold a few $50+ books on FBA also.

    You're correct. I haven't seen the numbers but I've heard that Prime
    customer definitely buy more than “regular” customers.

    I'm currently working on a spreadsheet that will show you all of these
    numbers you're looking for. I hope to be done with it soon to share.

  • gigs1777

    Adam, what is you advice to booksellers who live in small towns? I live in a town of about 50,000 in North Dakota with few other larger towns in a close distance. We have about 5 thrift stores here but the inventory is all dried up. The only used bookstore in town has overpriced books and the weather is so cold here that the yard sale season is only about 4 months. I have only see 1 FOL sale in the past year. Is buying books online and in bulk my only hope?

  • Rezolutionz

    So, since you started FBA a month ago or so, you changed your whole business approach??? You now ship ALL your books with a rank of under 500K to the warehouse? So you are only maintaining and listing books with ranks of 500K+ at YOUR warehouse?

    Also, not sure, but I think it costs $$ even if you opt for them to destroy your FBA inventory.

  • Rezolutionz

    You need to get to the most literate areas. Larger populations,colleges etc. More people, more books, smart people = more books, well off people read more and also donate more, so you need to be thinking like that. You should be willing to drive up to 100 Mile radius if you are serious.

  • adbertram

    Ive traveled a fee hours out of my way to go to FOL sales. If you have
    registered as a business you can write off the mileage. Just make sure
    you stay for a long time to make sure it's worth it.

    Otherwise, you can try remainders online or even eBay to sell on
    Amazon. I've actually made some good money doing that both by buying
    in lots or even buying singles.

    Also, I've searched craigslist for books and asked the sellers if
    they'll ship to me. Normally they will.

  • adbertram

    Correct. All books with a rank under 500,000 go to FBA. I'm a data
    junkie and ran the numbers. I've found that I make more money selling
    on FBA than selling the book on my own.

    It's always a gamble with the monthly storage fees but I'm going to be
    monitoring that closely. If they're not selling I'll mark them down to
    close to nothing to sell since I usually only pay just cents for the
    book in the first place.

  • Rezolutionz

    I would like to see those numbers, will you please share them? How does that work out with your Fillz account?If its @ the FBA warehouse, you can't possibly be selling it to non-Amazon customers, right?

    Also I posted another comment in direct reply to the gigs1777 question about inventory acquisition for small towns, and I don't see it posted.

    I really would like to see those numbers. I was thinking, you can price your order for $3.99 more, but you lose the $1.33 (average price of 1 and 2LBS media mail plus .10 cents for a mailer subtracted from customers initial $3.99 shipping payment). So does that mean that by selling FBA, you make $2.66 more per order? Did I miss anything?

  • adbertram

    I don't use Fillz for my FBA orders. They currently don't support it
    so they're just being sold on Amazon. The only thing bad about that is
    because they aren't being sold on other sites. Amazon accounts for
    about 70% of my sales but I still don't like exposing the inventory to
    other sites. We'll see how it goes once Fillz implements that feature.

    I've approved all comments thus far.

    I don't actually make more money on ALL books but most. ;) . I don't
    have the exact numbers right now but I've figured books weighing less
    than 24 oz and 1 to 24 cents I'll make more and anything over 25 cents
    I make more.

  • gigs1777

    I'll look into it. Thanks!

  • Rezolutionz

    You need to get into a more literate area. Be prepared to drive 100 mile radius at least. More population,more books. More literate,better books,better off,more donations, better books for you. You should do REALLY good at any FOL sale, but make sure to go on preview sale day, and make sure to get there hours early to get a good spot in line. If you don't have a PDA with barcode scanner, don't even go. Put ads in craigslist “cash for your used books”. Also find out how much books your local stores usually get donated and how when they put them out.

    At the thrift stores I frequent, I know when they put the books out, and even have gotten some to call me when they are ready. If you showed up 10 minutes after they were put out, I already bought anything worth reselling and I am already gone. If you showed up, you would say “the inventory was dried up”

    This is a large incentive (more than the day to day acquirement) for me to make sure I go everyday to get the good books, so that if anyone else thinks there might be books there, when they check, its all dead books and they don't come back again. All mine!

    Remember, books aren't the ONLY thing you can sell on Amazon :)

  • gigs1777

    I'll look into it. Thanks!

  • Rezolutionz

    You need to get into a more literate area. Be prepared to drive 100 mile radius at least. More population,more books. More literate,better books,better off,more donations, better books for you. You should do REALLY good at any FOL sale, but make sure to go on preview sale day, and make sure to get there hours early to get a good spot in line. If you don't have a PDA with barcode scanner, don't even go. Put ads in craigslist “cash for your used books”. Also find out how much books your local stores usually get donated and how when they put them out.

    At the thrift stores I frequent, I know when they put the books out, and even have gotten some to call me when they are ready. If you showed up 10 minutes after they were put out, I already bought anything worth reselling and I am already gone. If you showed up, you would say “the inventory was dried up”

    This is a large incentive (more than the day to day acquirement) for me to make sure I go everyday to get the good books, so that if anyone else thinks there might be books there, when they check, its all dead books and they don't come back again. All mine!

    Remember, books aren't the ONLY thing you can sell on Amazon :)

  • Rezolutionz

    You did say you send ALL of your books w/ Ranks under 500K to FBA correct? Doesn't this mean that you are losing out on a 30% market share of sales for a LARGE portion of your inventory? You DON'T like exposing your inventory to other sites? Why not? I thought the increased 30% sales market was good?

  • adbertram

    I don't use Fillz for my FBA orders. They currently don't support it
    so they're just being sold on Amazon. The only thing bad about that is
    because they aren't being sold on other sites. Amazon accounts for
    about 70% of my sales but I still don't like exposing the inventory to
    other sites. We'll see how it goes once Fillz implements that feature.

    I've approved all comments thus far.

    I don't actually make more money on ALL books but most. ;) . I don't
    have the exact numbers right now but I've figured books weighing less
    than 24 oz and 1 to 24 cents I'll make more and anything over 25 cents
    I make more.

  • gigs1777

    I'll look into it. Thanks!

  • Rezolutionz

    You need to get into a more literate area. Be prepared to drive 100 mile radius at least. More population,more books. More literate,better books,better off,more donations, better books for you. You should do REALLY good at any FOL sale, but make sure to go on preview sale day, and make sure to get there hours early to get a good spot in line. If you don't have a PDA with barcode scanner, don't even go. Put ads in craigslist “cash for your used books”. Also find out how much books your local stores usually get donated and how when they put them out.

    At the thrift stores I frequent, I know when they put the books out, and even have gotten some to call me when they are ready. If you showed up 10 minutes after they were put out, I already bought anything worth reselling and I am already gone. If you showed up, you would say “the inventory was dried up”

    This is a large incentive (more than the day to day acquirement) for me to make sure I go everyday to get the good books, so that if anyone else thinks there might be books there, when they check, its all dead books and they don't come back again. All mine!

    Remember, books aren't the ONLY thing you can sell on Amazon :)

  • Rezolutionz

    You did say you send ALL of your books w/ Ranks under 500K to FBA correct? Doesn't this mean that you are losing out on a 30% market share of sales for a LARGE portion of your inventory? You DON'T like exposing your inventory to other sites? Why not? I thought the increased 30% sales market was good?