My Experience Moving from FillZ to Monsoon

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monsoon My Experience Moving from FillZ to MonsoonWhen I first started selling books on the Internet I had no idea where it would go.  I sold a few here and there from my shelf at home and that first big group of  books that I bought from a local FOL sale was kind of like a shot in the dark.  My wife nearly killed me because, at the time, I had no idea where I was going to even put them all let alone know how to sell all of them.  This is how I’ve been and always will be.  I guess it’s just a personality trait of mine.  I don’t typically plan a whole lot.  If I want to try something new I’ll jump and then ask questions later even if it means throwing some cash at it.

This is what I’ve done with Monsoon.  If you’re new to this blog you can find my first post on this huge change in business that I’ve done at the post Making the Leap into the Unknown.  To summarize that post if you’re too lazy to go look at it I basically explain that sometimes you just have to take the leap and do it.  No amount of planning in the world is going to be enough and eventually you’ll just have to just do it.  This can be applied to the situation I’m in now or even if you’re never sold a book in your life!  Doing days upon days of research and more research, deciding on exactly what type of book scouting setup you need, knowing exactly which books to buy before you even start is ridiculous.  This might work if you’re going to invest in a franchise that would cost you $50K to get started but it’s used books!  Used books are a dime a dozen and if they’re not that cheap the most you’d be out for a few dozen books to try out is $20 or less.  There is no excuse for not trying because if you don’t try you’ll never succeed.  Want to know a good starting point?  My eBook!

I’m interrupting my regularly scheduled book scouting series post this week.  I wanted to take this time to update everyone on why I haven’t been too active posting as well as not living up to my promise of getting the Amazon Sales Spreadsheet out much, much sooner.  Sometimes, it’s very hard to balance a full-time traditional 9-5 job, successful online bookselling business as well as writing about it but I’m doing my best!

OK, that’s about enough of my pity party.  This post is all about my experience getting started with Monsoon.  This post will most likely not apply to new sellers as Monsoon can be very pricey and is geared towards sellers in the likes of Goodwill, Salvation Army, etc.  I don’t pretend to even be close to their sales volume but this is the first step of achieving that goal!

Here is how things have been going for me for the past few weeks.

Workflow from point of contact to initial setup

  1. I first talked with a friendly (aren’t they all?) salesperson to discuss how I was selling currently, what my volume of orders was, features that Monsoon had that may help me, some things that Monsoon couldn’t do, etc.  This process did not go the greatest because I was using FBA and he allowed me to purchase Monsoon Edge (the introductory package) rather than Monsoon Pro (FBA, international markets, more repricing options).  It eventually worked out though for the better and I’m finally setup with Monsoon Pro.
  2. After all the initial talks on how Monsoon would be solving all my problems, cure cancer and make me a quadrillionaire I then had to pay the initial fee for setup.  $500 for the introductory package Monsoon Edge or $2000 for the next step up which was Monsoon Pro.  Afterward, I’ll be paying 3.5% of my gross sales every month.  If you’d be using Edge you’d be paying 3.9% of gross sales.
  3. You will then talk to an implementation team that helps you get it downloaded, installed and configured.  This team gets you up and running on all the marketplaces you were on previously, configure the software for best practices, import all your inventory into the software as well as give you some good advice along the way.  I really appreciated Victoria and her team’s efforts here.
  4. After a few different calls with the implementation team and your inventory is live you’re cut loose and slapped on the back which was a little scary to me since this software is so different than FillZ was.  I was then to the point of tweaking repricing strategies, inventory receiving thresholds, marketplace specific settings, etc.
  5. A few support emails later, I had finally finished my first inventory receiving session as well as processing my orders.  This was WAY different than FillZ so I’m still not 100% on these tasks yet but I’m learning as I go.

By going through these five steps, I have managed to close all of the marketplaces that FillZ supported which Monsoon doesn’t which was Valorebooks, eCampus, Biblio, Textbookx, Gemm and A1books.  I’ve also purged my entire inventory from all the venues that I had listed in which Monsoon does support which was Amazon, Abebooks, Alibris and Half.com.  In order to get eBay up and going I was told there is no way around purging that too.  However, as you know, eBay has listing fees and, which, with my 4700 books would have cost me hundreds to relist so I’m currently waiting until all listings die off to relist again.

After initial inventory purges, Monsoon then took my existing inventory and enabled all the markets and got everything up and going again only this time through Monsoon instead of FillZ.  It’s now smooth sailing for me as orders are coming in, Monsoon’s repricing all my inventory and keeping all marketplace inventory in sync.

What I’ve gained from this transition

  • Consolidation of an inventory/order processing service (FillZ), repricing service (RepriceIT), online book scouting service (Scoutpal) and a bulk inventory price lookup tool (Neatoscan Inventory Evaluator) into one piece of software.
  • Much quicker and more intelligent repricing.  Monsoon can reprice once an hour and can sense repricing wars to prevent runs to the inevitable penny book.
  • Significant increase in receiving speed.  I can now scan a book and list in less than10 seconds due to the many efficiencies and process improvements that Monsoon has over FillZ.
  • More organized inventory management.  I’m now able to search inventory much quicker because it’s on my computer as well as being designed better.
  • Per marketplace settings.  For example, I can now adjust my prices to be different on each marketplace to account for different fees and also various shipping rules.
  • Monsoon’s own book scouting service.
  • Slick FBA integration.  I can now scan and print off the label all at once.  The FBA integration is really nice and speeds up shipments considerably.
  • Listing my inventory on buy.com and most, if not all, of the international Amazon marketplaces.
  • The best asset?  The expertise of a service that all the big boys use.

What I’ve learned from this experience

  • This change was not only huge in regards to service but also how I use the service.  FillZ was a hosted service which means everything was hosted on their servers.  Their servers did all the work in the background while Monsoon is software that gets installed on your computer.  This means that all of the information is stored on your computer thus YOUR responsibility.  I haven’t got a backup routine down yet but I’m planning on it.
  • This software needs to have a very fast Internet connection for it to maintain your listings.  I had a pretty bad 1mbps/256kbps connection at my warehouse that wouldn’t do it.  Monsoon had it pegged 24/7 so I had to bring the Monsoon PC home to my cable modem Internet connection to where I now access it remotely from my warehouse.
  • A huge asset to have is patience and face the fact that you’re going to loseWeight Exercise some sales during the transition.  Because all inventory has to be purged and then re-uploaded again it takes some sites longer to do that and you’ll most likely miss out on a day’s worth of sales at the most.
  • Finally, I’ve learned to make money you have to spend money.  I’ve already noticed orders going up considerably from what I was doing due to the advice that I was given, speed at which I can receive inventory and efficiencies of the software itself.

I realize that this was a very long post but this has not  been near what I’ve gone through over the past few weeks to make this transition happen.  It has been a lot of work and coordination to make this all happen but I’m very happy I did it.  I hope that you’ve pulled a few ideas or learned from a few mistakes that I’ve made during this transition and wish you all the luck with whatever service you’re using!

P.S. If you’re thinking about making the switch to Monsoon please let me know as I’d love to get a referral credit!

- Adam

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  • jtp73

    At what point should one consider “upgrading” to Monsoon? What other similar services are out there?

  • adbertram

    I cannot speak for anyone else but I was at the point whenever FillZ was
    consistently down or was sometimes very slow to respond. I also knew
    because I was supplementing the downfalls of FillZ with other services so I
    didn't have a cohesive system. I also made the upgrade to mostly get me
    thinking bigger. FillZ is not a huge volume service and Monsoon is. I
    wanted to get a big seller product, talk with the company and get some ideas
    and motivation to take my business to the next level.

    Other similar services include Indaba Systems and Neatoscan Inventory
    Manager.

  • http://OglieOglie.com OglieOglie

    $2000 to set up is a lot of money for a business of your size. How many books would you need to sell to break even?

  • adbertram

    I didn't pay $2000 because of a different circumstance but even if I had to
    I would have. I net around $3000/month right now.

  • Frank

    Hey Adam,
    I am just starting my business. How wise/unwise would it be to start with Monsoon to begin with? (with the Edge of course) then grow with them from the onset adding inventory and marketplaces over time. Would you have started with them at the beginning if you knew then what you know now?

  • Bruce

    OK, I have read your blog from end to end, read your ebook, and done a huge amount of research and am ready to take the plunge. I have opened an FBA account and have sent off my first two boxes of books. I am just starting out and have essentially zero inventory. But I want to do this right. i am willing to invest the effort and money to do it right. I want to be able to retire into this business and provide viable employment for my daughter and her husband. That all said, whould you suggest starting out with this service from the outset? Or would you do it more organically? I appreciate your input and all you've done here!

  • adbertram

    If I would have known what I know now I would go directly to Monsoon. When
    I first started I thought it may be a good way to make some side income and
    had no real plan. Now, I want to eventually do this full time and grow a
    large business from this. If you have the same goal from the beginning and
    even want to employ your family you're going to have to think big from the
    beginning. However, to be big you have to have big amounts of inventory.
    Books are prevalent but aren't extremely easy to find at a bargain price.
    To be able to be big enough to where you're going to live on this and employ
    2 people you're going to have to be selling at least $10K/month or more and
    that is no easy feat especially starting out.

    I'd first learn all the major venues such as Amazon, eBay, Alibris, Abebooks
    and Half. Start listing on all of them at once either through FillZ or
    Monsoon. Monsoon is more of an end to end solution and is more robust so I
    suppose it's up to you if you want to drop the cash down now knowing you
    have a plan to make it back or sign up with FillZ for free and only pay $50
    or so a month.

  • Bruce

    Thanks! I think I better do Fillz until I outgrow it! Does Monsoon only require a setup fee and then a percentage, or is there a monthly charge in addition to the percentage?

  • adbertram

    Setup fee is $500 for their low end package with 3.9% of monthly gross sales
    afterward.

  • Peter

    At least you can see where that extra bite out of your gross sales is going, you've got to pay someone for flashy web design and execrable sales prose. That Monsoon page is so bad I can't help but think this post is a paid shill.

  • adbertram

    This, I assure you, is not a paid post nor have I ever done a paid
    post and if I ever do you'd know about it. :)

    I'm really enjoying it so far but it has it's limitations just like
    any piece of software.

  • jgr

    I'm looking into starting my own online book selling business and appreciate your blog. One of these days I'll have a large enough inventory to merit sophisticated inventory/pricing software. I have researched this subject and was wondering if you considered repriceit.com instead of Monsoon.

  • adbertram

    RepriceIT, albeit one of the best repricing tools I could find at the time
    is not in the same category as Monsoon. Monsoon is an all-inclusive
    inventory/order management system which includes inventory management,
    repricing, order fulfillment, multi-marketplace listing, reporting and also
    includes a book scouting service.

  • Berny

    I'm own a very small used bookshop in rural Australia, but we nonetheless get quite a few interesting, rare and sought-after books through the doors. I have been researching how to set up an internal inventory that would facilitate speedy upload to places such as abebooks and booksandcollectibles. I began to look at Fillz, and also Book Router – but am now interested in Monsoon. abebooks allows you to download their Homebase inventory software, to maintain an offline (i.e. not on their server) inventory before syncing with upload on site. But I can't find info yet on whether it enables an exportable format to also export/list with other sites – such as booksandcollectibles. I'm not sure I need all the dynamic repricing or Book scouting software – (we are a very small operation), so I'm interested in, possibly, Monsoon Edge. (The basic package still allows you to create a locally-stored inventory, right?)
    - I've just bought your ebook, too. Looking forward to getting into it! – B

  • adbertram

    Thanks for the eBook purchase. I hope you like it. I would not look at
    Monsoon. It is designed for larger operations with lots of volume. I
    believe Homebase would be a great product for you to keep track of your
    inventory. If you have rare collectible books Abebooks and eBay would be
    where you want to list on. Homebase is free so you can download it with no
    risk and I'm 99% sure that you can export inventory out into a CSV or tab
    separated file. I wouldn't worry about dynamic pricing either. Collectible
    books are a breed all their own and people typically don't reprice those.

  • adbertram

    Thanks for the eBook purchase. I hope you like it. I would not look at
    Monsoon. It is designed for larger operations with lots of volume. I
    believe Homebase would be a great product for you to keep track of your
    inventory. If you have rare collectible books Abebooks and eBay would be
    where you want to list on. Homebase is free so you can download it with no
    risk and I'm 99% sure that you can export inventory out into a CSV or tab
    separated file. I wouldn't worry about dynamic pricing either. Collectible
    books are a breed all their own and people typically don't reprice those.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MRodColorado Michael Rodriguez

    Thanks a lot – your comments will be helpful in my Monsoon vs Channel Advisor decision.

  • Jack

    Adam,

    If your business was 100% Amazon FBA, with no other sales channels, would you find that
    Monsoon is too expensive? As it stands in February 2011, Amazon’s FBA tools have their limits and I am struggling to
    find any third-party software that offers any automation products that will be helpful vs the cost…thanks for your time!

    Jack

  • Jack

    Adam,

    If your business was 100% Amazon FBA, with no other sales channels, would you find that
    Monsoon is too expensive? As it stands in February 2011, Amazon’s FBA tools have their limits and I am struggling to
    find any third-party software that offers any automation products that will be helpful vs the cost…thanks for your time!

    Jack

  • Anonymous

    Jack,

    If I were just using FBA only I would not consider Monsoon. Monsoon’s greatest power is from their multi-marketplace capabilities. FBAPower has provided some tools to automate some of the process. Have you checked them out? If you’re interested in other things I might be willing to look into developing some custom for you to automate whatever process you’d like.

  • Joe

    Well, one thing that Monsoon does NOT seem to do is pouring
    money on web pages. IMHO the bulk goes to the software itself.

  • Anonymous

    I agree.

  • Jim

    I actually found that if you use Neatoscan, you can save a ton of money by buying your rolls on Amazon, avoiding the one case minimum and high shipping charges

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GP8U92/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

    They should be compatible with all programs as they are just standard 2000 label rolls for any zebra printer

  • Glenn

    Adam, I am a long time reader of your blog and have enjoyed the information I have been able to find. I started off early this year with scoutpal and thrift stores. I quickly got on board with Fillz as my inventory grew to over one thousand within a month. I recently purchased 40,000-50,000 used books from someone who did this sort of thing for a living. He had been doing it for over ten years but abruptly passed away. His family did not know how to tackle the business and ended up selling the entire inventory of his personal and business to me at roughly 20 cents a book. This was a huge jump and an amazing oppurtunity for me to get bumped up to the big leagues. The pitfall being that this person had no ogranization to his inventory nor did he have more then a 1000 of the books listed.

    I currently use Fillz and Endicia. My supported marketplaces are amazon, half, alibris, biblio, valore, textbookx and amazon.ca.

    Since accuiring the 50,000 books two weeks ago,  I have been able to inventory about 1000, putting my total listed inventory at 2000. Average book price 14$.

    I use a handheld scanner and fillz to input my inventory. Although this method is good, it is still very time consuming. Unfortanetely, I feel like my effeciency of listing is largely hindered by the technology of fillz.

    I will be making the jump to monsoon edge in the near future, but had a few questions.

    Did you notice a huge jump in the overall inventory process and pricing schemtaics when you moved over to Monsoon? i want books to be accurately listed, but would like to increase my listed capacity. (It takes me about two weeks to complete 1000 fully listed inventory.)

    Last question is my price break for profit is about $1-2 per book listed. Anything worth less then a dollar is donated to charity and used for tax write off purposes. (loss).

    I donate a considerable amount on a weekly basis. I usually price each donated book at a value of $1 per book. Do you think that estimate is believable by most CPA’s or could I write them off for more per book.

  • Anonymous

    If you do go to Monsoon, make sure you mention me for a referral. :) Monsoon is much easier for me to use to load in new inventory and has a much better pricing section. The only downside is if you’ve got a few thousand books listed, you need a pretty beefy computer to install Monsoon on and a fast Internet connection for it to work. To list that many books, Monsoon uses classifications you can set for your items to put cookie cutter descriptions. I typically sort them by a few general conditions then set my condition notes to each group of books.

  • Outsider

    There’s no way on God’s green earth I’d pay 3.5% in additional fees for my online sales.  A busy high-end bookseller could rack up 30K in fees per year easily.  If you are going to spend that kind of money you could develop your own software over 2 or 3 years that customized to your own business, and then you’d never have to pay another dime.

  • Anonymous

    Approve.